16:07:52 [janb] Ok. My biggest struggle by far is promotion - not spending a million dollars to get the sale. I am getting better at it though.

16:08:02 [janb] with your help of course.

16:08:35 [janb] I am also launching a new site which is going to be Gift Basket Baby and sell just baby gifts.

16:08:52 [janb] If all goes well that will be up next week.

16:12:06 [kaygreen] awesome

16:12:18 [kaygreen] promotion is never ending - I have learned that

16:12:24 [kaygreen] are you in the SEO class

16:12:48 [kaygreen] promoting everywhere I can

16:13:06 [kaygreen] I am getting a URL mention in working mother magazine because I wrote a letter to the editor

16:13:50 [janb] That is great - you have such creative ideas.

16:14:21 [kaygreen] I think God just gives me inspiration

16:14:40 [janb] I am looking forward to the home business expo although my Mom now has surgery on Thursday so it may change my participation a little.

16:14:41 [kaygreen] I was reading the magazine and liked the article talking about how a woman started her own business

16:15:05 [kaygreen] I saw other letters to the editor so thought hey I should comment on this article

16:15:28 [kaygreen] so I did and was surprised how quickly they emailed asking to use my letter

16:15:44 [kaygreen] I am also working on sending my product to some parent type magazines for review

16:15:57 [janb] I have a new web site going up next week - giftbasketbaby.com - Do you want your banner on that links page to cat? Kay, send me your banner too.

16:16:56 [kaygreen] mine are at http://www.MyPreciousKid.com/ads.html 

16:17:01 [janb] Do you do any on-line promotion Kay?

16:17:07 [countrycat] yes jan I'd love too I'll need your banner

16:17:23 [janb] Ok Kay, I can put them on both sites for you.

16:17:36 [janb] I have no banner for that site yet but working on it.

16:17:36 [kaygreen] and http://www.123homebusinessguide.com/ads.html 

16:17:59 [countrycat] let me know when you do and I'll put it up

16:18:56 [janb] Thank you...this new site happened by chance I think but I am happy about it.

16:19:00 [kaygreen] and http://www.kaygreen.com/link-to-us.html 

16:19:18 [kaygreen] be sure to add a coupon for each site on my coupon codes page

16:19:31 [kaygreen] sometimes the chance ones are meant to be

16:20:49 [kaygreen] jan you asked about online promotion

16:21:19 [kaygreen] what I have done is submitted to every directory I can find, write articles and get the articles in directories like family-content.com

16:21:59 [kaygreen] family-content.com

16:22:12 [kaygreen] also sponsored contests

16:22:18 [janb] Do you do any pay per click? I have recently tried to stay clear of that.

16:22:35 [countrycat] that's what I've been doing as well all the free links I can get and I search for what my competitors are getting links to

16:22:37 [kaygreen] be in expos and online events

16:22:49 [kaygreen] no pay per clicks for me

16:22:53 [countrycat] aww jan fingers crossed you can

16:23:05 [kaygreen] doing link exchanges on my coupon pages

16:23:24 [kaygreen] paid for listings in other wahm directories - those are good for me

16:24:11 [kaygreen] I have put a text link map on the bottom of all my pages with all links going to outside address http://www.MyPreciousKid.com/products.html  - that way they count as back links too

16:24:38 [kaygreen] and now I am making a separate page for every product finding a specific key word phrase for that product

16:25:02 [countrycat] my best one has been homepartyplannetwork.com 

16:25:37 [kaygreen] do you track them - I do not yet

16:26:40 [janb] Yes, I have a site meter that tracks where my traffic is coming from...just gives me a rough idea of what is working.

16:27:24 [countrycat] I've got a java script on mine that tells me exactly what site is sending me what and how many hits in a 24 hour period

16:27:50 [kaygreen] I have site meter but do not look often

16:28:42 [kaygreen] I try to get year long listings in wahm directories where I can

16:28:50 [kaygreen] I do not usually do the month listings

16:33:33 [kaygreen] so that is my list on online promotions

16:34:01 [kaygreen] I am looking for places I can submit articles - or get others to do product review swaps - or can send my product for review

16:35:04 [countrycat] I wonder if any of the big magazines like good housekeeping, woman's day will let you send in a product for one of there neat finds of the month I'd like to do that as well

16:36:51 [janb] My best traffic so far is from gift basket directories as people are already looking for that kind of gift.

16:37:07 [janb] People also seem to shop by state so lots of MA sales.

16:38:01 [countrycat] good point about the state thing I'm listed in a state run directory of handcrafted items

16:39:18 [kaygreen] I am looking at that - doing a search for the magazines then emailing to see if I can submit a product for review

16:40:24 [countrycat] I wish I could find a celebrity to use my stuff sheesh would the orders roll in lol wonder if there's a way to do that?

16:41:12 [janb] I found one directory called Present Picker that supposedly advertises to media...not sure if that is true.

16:41:40 [countrycat] hmm Kay are there any family organizations you could donate to that might endorse them?

16:42:12 [janb] I wish I could find a better way to reach the corporate community. Any suggestions Kay?

16:42:15 [countrycat] hmm jan I'll have to check for that I had a company wanting me to pay to get into the goodie baskets for celebs at award shows

16:43:30 [kaygreen] I think for corporate you have to KNOW someone to get in the first door

16:44:06 [countrycat] if I find a way ladies I'll let you know heck I'd send a celeb a ton if I knew where to send them lol

16:44:09 [kaygreen] cat I am not sure the family endorsements really help much

16:44:34 [kaygreen] I am doing the full page spread in Nancy Cleary magazine

17:11:04 [kaygreen] free advertising here http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WNC-Chat-Advertising/ 

17:11:13 [kaygreen] and http://www.123homebusinessguide.com 

17:11:55 [kaygreen] and on Monday at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/1ChristianWAHM/ 

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