15:00:51 [kaygreen] welcome ladies please introduce yourselves

15:02:13 [taracrooks] Hi Kay! I'm Tara from http://www.AdvertisingMoms.com --FREE WAHM and Home Based Business Advertising Resources--- and http://www.TheCandleCoop.com  Hand Poured Triple Scented Candles and a NO STARTUP cost biz opp! :)

15:02:27 [taracrooks] oops it's http://www.AdvertisingMoms.com 

15:03:26 [Ingrid] Hi, I'm Ingrid from http://www.adminxpress.com  - marketing and website design services

15:05:03 [annelise] http://www.webstartcenter.com/  web development and hosting and tutorials... http://www.airofdelight.com/  essential oils -- but the next week or so I'm concentrating on packing and moving I think

15:05:06 [Dee] Hi, I'm Dee from http://www.daxdevelopment.com  and http://www.faithminders.com  :)

15:06:37 [cyndie] My site is http://www.beautipage.com/cyndie  ; I am a Spa & Image Consultant with BeautiControl Cosmetics & other Consumer discount family purchasing; What is today's topic?

15:07:15 [RoriD] Hi, I'm Rori, with 2Morrow Mgt. Services, no URL at the present moment but I'm working on it -D

15:08:49 [kaygreen] I will put this transcript on my site so you each get a URL link from y site to yours!!!

15:08:59 [kaygreen] I am the teacher today.

15:09:01 [cyberkathy] Hi, I'm Kathy and owner of Kathy's Secretarial Services -- http://www.kss4help.com

15:09:15 [kaygreen] I am Kay Green and own http://www.MyPreciousKid.com  with 100 reps

15:09:45 [kaygreen] I also own http://www.123homebusinessguide.com free business resources - lots of articles to build your business please visit it after class

15:10:10 [kaygreen] and http://www.preciouskids.org  Adoption and Homeschool Resources plus http://www.KayGreen.com  my family site

15:10:34 [kaygreen] Today's class is about if you were your own employee would you be worth paying

15:10:47 [kaygreen] Do you work your business like a job or a hobby

15:11:14 [taracrooks] Is that a question?

15:11:18 [kaygreen] Scale of 1 -10, 10 being the best employee ever and 1 being the worst employee how do your rate yourself as am employee of your business

15:11:42 [kaygreen] YES everyone please give me your rating - then we will talk about specifics

15:12:11 [cyberkathy] 7

15:12:19 [RoriD] 7

15:13:13 [Ingrid] you guys have interesting businesses, I like it

15:13:36 [Dee] overall, I would say 8.5 - I have days where I am 10 and days where I'm at 5 or 6 ---but the "10" days far outweigh the "5" or "6" days

15:13:38 [cyndie] 5 ~ Because of all my family commitments at this time. It gives me much frustration

15:13:56 [Ingrid] 10

15:14:57 [taracrooks] 9 and only 9 and not 10 because I ask for too much time off LOL

15:15:15 [taracrooks] I'd be a pain in the *** if I worked for someone with my crazy schedule Ha ha!

15:15:41 [kaygreen] great

15:15:48 [taracrooks] I am extremely committed to my job and my clients so I think I'd love to have myself as an employee

15:15:57 [kaygreen] lets talk about what kind of activities

15:16:08 [Ingrid] I have my heart into what I do, I love it

15:16:17 [kaygreen] what I see from some is they are busy and online each day but..........................

15:16:44 [kaygreen] the time may be spent doing email, chatting, paperwork etc.

15:17:10 [kaygreen] How much time do you spend each day either filling orders, making products, or making face to face or phone contacts to get more business

15:17:19 [cyberkathy] Cyndie, I agree wit you on the family thing and it used to get me in trouble when I was a f/t employee and I'd have to take time off for a sick child.

15:18:03 [kaygreen] I totally agree - family must come first

15:18:23 [kaygreen] I find I have to turn the computer off at times to make sure I am not distracted from family activities

15:18:31 [Dee] that's why I felt like I wasn't the best employee ever - I spend most of my time making products, filling orders, and that sort of thing BUT, as far as making more contacts or marketing, I fall WAY short right now

15:19:36 [kaygreen] so do you find the work you do each day is work that brings income

15:19:52 [kaygreen] dee most of us do not do that well - it is the hard part of working at home

15:20:04 [kaygreen] if you have enough business then it is not important

15:20:15 [kaygreen] but if you do not have enough business it is VITAL

15:20:33 [taracrooks] I don't do face to face alot unless I'm out. Mostly online but that is focus of my business. I do alot more face to face about Candle Coop. I don't make my own candles so that cut down on time to network etc.

15:20:41 [kaygreen] I can spend 8 hours a day doing busywork and avoiding that which would increase my business

15:20:45 [Ingrid] I try to dedicate as much time to my daughter as possible

15:20:48 [Dee] yes, but I have a hard time securing ways to get that future income (other than repeat business)

15:21:06 [kaygreen] face to face can be online if you are directly contacting someone to buy, sell, or date an event

15:21:33 [taracrooks] Some of the work does income...but it really depends. My new thing is trying to reach more moms on the internet that need to advertise their business. I have been in the process of redoing http://www.thecandlecoop.com  and focusing more on the rep program than retail sales since that is where my income

15:21:47 [taracrooks] is coming from ...that is what I found out after analyzing it

15:21:51 [Ingrid] I also take care of myself by going to the gym, doing yoga etc., you need energy to work

15:22:28 [taracrooks] kaygreen> then yes I do do face to face

15:22:43 [taracrooks] Ingrid> I give myself my "Curves" time three days a week..I need it for SANITY LOL

15:22:59 [kaygreen] Ingrid those things are very important

15:23:07 [RoriD] I use Yahoo IM a great deal for my face to face contacts

15:23:08 [kaygreen] I am doing curves too

15:23:18 [kaygreen] rori that is great

15:23:34 [taracrooks] kaygreen> My biggest challenge right now is meeting more people outside of the groups (circles) I already belong to!

15:23:45 [kaygreen] one of the things I suggest to my reps is to set a goal to make 5-10 face to face contacts each work week day

15:24:09 [kaygreen] at each of those contacts ask someone to buy a product, join your team, or hold a class/party

15:24:13 [Ingrid] good for you guys, exercise is important to keep young and active

15:24:54 [kaygreen] it is easy to get in the same groups and rely on those for business - finding new sources really will help your business

15:25:00 [taracrooks] Then again I just realized I have spent three hours working on banners and graphic orders today so I guess I DO make my own product for Advertising Moms Duh!

15:25:08 [kaygreen] yes I do Tara

15:25:14 [kaygreen] LOL Tara

15:25:20 [taracrooks] kaygreen> any suggestions for??

15:25:21 [Dee] oh gosh - I didn't even think about that, Kay - but this last Sunday, I got 2 more orders for anklets, just because I put mine on before going to our class

15:25:32 [kaygreen] I ask these questions only to help you evaluate where you want to take your business

15:25:47 [kaygreen] suggestions for what Tara

15:25:52 [taracrooks] kaygreen> oops...meeting new people? Other than Ryze...by the way...does the paid membership offer you ALOT more?

15:26:20 [taracrooks] I find when I try to join some yahoo groups networking is hard b/c they are all SPAM sort of groups...there is no real GOOD group out there...

15:26:33 [Ingrid] I joined 2 chambers in my local area, just become board member of 1 of them

15:26:35 [taracrooks] it's either SPAM or you don't mention your biz or you're out.

15:26:45 [kaygreen] wahoo dee

15:26:45 [taracrooks] Ingrid> that's on my list.

15:26:55 [kaygreen] Tara I just have the free membership at ryze

15:27:10 [Dee] lol, yeah, Kay - but, I didn't even think about that as a business thing, ya know?

15:27:27 [kaygreen] I did some searching and found some new yahoogroups but you are right you have to try them and see if it is a fit

15:27:44 [kaygreen] and I joined a new SEO class that is not ads at all - except sig line

15:27:54 [kaygreen] so lets think OFF line

15:28:07 [kaygreen] Tara I know since you do online advertising offline is not as viable for you

15:28:16 [Ingrid] Tara> it will be good fro you

15:28:21 [kaygreen] how many of you do your own products and how many rep for another company

15:28:46 [annelise] my own

15:28:51 [Ingrid] I offer services

15:29:06 [Dee] I do my own

15:29:08 [taracrooks] not for AdvertisingMoms but for Candle Coop it is

15:29:20 [taracrooks] viable off line that is...

15:29:21 [RoriD] I do both, I.e service for my own company and rep for another company

15:29:42 [taracrooks] I do my own on AdMoms and I have a manufacturer make our candles on The Coop...and I have reps selling them as well as a retail site

15:30:01 [cyberkathy] I'm going to be a while on the phone, can I get a transcript of this.

15:32:29 [cyndie] I have had 3 phone calls and the postman at the door. I find email and online does not help much in my business. It is phone calls following up to check on clients etc does more.

15:33:29 [kaygreen] yes Kathy it will be at http://123homebusinessguide.com/chat   later

15:33:52 [kaygreen] cyndie so true when I call a customer to verify an order I many times can increase the order

15:34:10 [kaygreen] ok lets talk about taking your own product or service offline - where - how

15:34:18 [cyndie] I also have moved and am starting over so I feel really limited right now in contacts. My father-in-law is on Hospice and I am traveling back & forth helping to take care of him so it is hard to schedule things or work on contacts. My business needs a party/spa plan or one on one type of contact.

15:34:34 [kaygreen] one things I am doing is sending a sample product for review to some magazines that have my niche market

15:34:53 [kaygreen] and that is why we do business for the flexibility for family

15:34:59 [taracrooks] Kay, also I loved your idea of emailing the editors That was awesome!!

15:35:12 [kaygreen] and we know that when we flew our business changes - what you do in business now will effect in 6 weeks

15:35:27 [kaygreen] yes I am emailing the editor asking who does their product reviews

15:35:39 [kaygreen] oops that should say FLEX your business

15:35:53 [kaygreen] and I am sending a review sheet hoping they will return it

15:36:09 [kaygreen] who is doing Nancy Cleary's full page business ad for $99

15:37:14 [RoriD] this is new to me

15:37:23 [kaygreen] having my product in the article in woman's day proved to me how much impact offline can do - I have gotten 100 orders from it and they are still coming it

15:38:18 [Ingrid] I need to know where to advertise for my services online, my goal is to be 80% virtual at least

15:38:29 [kaygreen] http://www.MomsBusinessMagazine.com/aboutBomb.html 

15:38:35 [Ingrid] but my budget it's so tight

15:38:52 [kaygreen] I think it is $149 now - early bird was $99

15:39:10 [kaygreen] she creates for you a professional full page layout and puts it in her magazine

15:39:29 [kaygreen] plus you get the pdf of it to use everyone plus a press release to send it out with

15:40:59 [Ingrid] interesting Kay

15:41:15 [kaygreen] Nancy has taken several wahm products to national levels

15:42:00 [kaygreen] so that is one option

15:42:48 [kaygreen] doing home parties or classes offline is another very profitable option

15:42:49 [Dianne] hi! just realized what time it is! sorry for being so late!

15:43:14 [kaygreen] no worries Dianne we are talking about increasing business

15:43:28 [kaygreen] personally online parties are never as lucrative for me as an offline party

15:44:04 [fraow] I'm Deanna from MPK DL-375

15:44:30 [Dianne] I'm Dianne Fratscher, owner of http://www.wahmsunited.com    <-- one of Kay's reps

15:45:05 [fraow] love the updates you did to your site Dianne

15:45:07 [Ingrid] anyone here a virtual assistant?

15:45:54 [kaygreen] anytime you can get a group together to show your products you will do well - there is a group buying phenomenon that happens

15:46:01 [kaygreen] I use a VA Ingrid

15:46:11 [kaygreen] but she is not virtual she comes to my home

15:46:21 [fraow] I'm going to try my hand at a spring fair in a weeks

15:46:30 [kaygreen] so think about if you could sell your product in a party or class format

15:46:54 [Dianne] I have my first offline meeting with a women's networking group next week

15:46:59 [kaygreen] fairs/booths/events are another great way to increase business and URL traffic - getting your name out there - having a drawing box to gain leads to call

15:47:15 [kaygreen] again though you MUST do the follow up calls for the leads or it is worthless to you

15:47:43 [Ingrid] Kay>yeah, I'm thinking of having a drawing for services at my site

15:48:04 [fraow] have to pt together a draw box

15:48:18 [Dianne] I'm trying to find some info on local fairs etc. around here

15:48:20 [Ingrid] maybe a couple of hours free with a signed contract

15:48:33 [Ingrid] trade shows are expensive

15:48:34 [Dee] I love the idea of a class.....but, am thinking that parties would actually be better for my product

15:48:43 [taracrooks] I did those when I used to do MK and I got a pretty good response but alot of dead ones too

15:48:43 [Dee] lol, of course, I'm still a little nervous about that

15:48:46 [fraow] I got my lead from someone at a discussion board

15:48:51 [taracrooks] We did fundraisers

15:49:03 [taracrooks] for causes like Cancer Society etc

15:49:22 [Dianne] Dee, YOU have nothing to worry about! lol - your products are Awesome!

15:49:27 [taracrooks] and we collected donations..at the same time..we had them sign up for a FREE GIFT and on the sheet they had the option if they wanted more info. Believe it or not most of them did....

15:49:42 [taracrooks] Dee>what's your site/product?

15:50:02 [fraow] I think that makes the person feel safe

15:50:18 [Dee] Tara - it's http://www.faithminders.com 

15:51:12 [kaygreen] the lead boxes are awesome

15:51:33 [fraow] I'm hoping lead boxes will help

15:52:00 [Dianne] I was hoping to send out a zillion mom packs this month, but so far only 1 person out of the dozen or so that said they'd send fillers, actually have

15:52:17 [fraow] this ladies is going to give me help at the fair and tell me how to improve leads and draw the crowds

15:53:00 [fraow] glad to get the pics to show the display

15:53:41 [taracrooks] Well guys I have to go...hubby's on his way home and I need to pick up and close up shop! It's been great chatting. Stop by the site message boards sometime and say Hi! http://www.advertisingmoms.com/community  and we also do a networking event every Tuesday at 2pm EST. :) Thanks again!!!

15:54:05 [kaygreen] Dianne I do finding getting fillers takes time so I ask for them constantly so I can keep a selection - have you tried the coupon sheets to print

15:54:06 [fraow] cya Tara

15:54:14 [Dianne] lol Tara! see you later!

15:54:38 [taracrooks] Hee hee...Bye Fraow and Dianne! See you all later!!

15:54:43 [fraow] the fillers for us Kay don't work as we are in Canada

15:54:48 [kaygreen] so lets talk about events - how can you get the most our of your money when doing a booth

15:55:23 [kaygreen] awww Dianne so what about asking for 11 coupon codes from other Canada vendors and print a sheet with coupons then add your own info to round out the pack

15:55:37 [fraow] colorful displays various heights in display

15:55:39 [kaygreen] no Dianne I did several full page coupon sheets for many vendors

15:56:02 [kaygreen] yes display is important - draw them in - inviting - color full

15:56:13 [kaygreen] having products they can pick up and see first hand

15:56:15 [Dianne] that's a good idea Kay, hadn't thought about soliciting for that - but it can be done!

15:56:36 [kaygreen] I use the sheets when I am low on fillers

15:56:41 [fraow] then talk up your products

15:57:02 [kaygreen] STAND UP - smile - talk to every one who walks by

15:57:06 [RoriD] what are fillers??

15:57:16 [fraow] draw the person in by using their child as an example

15:57:16 [kaygreen] have a packet to hand out to those walking past that do not stop

15:57:32 [kaygreen] fillers are coupons from other vendors to put in my coupon packs I give away

15:57:32 [fraow] have a card at least to pass to everyone

15:57:52 [RoriD] ok, thanks

15:57:58 [kaygreen] people always love to talk about their kids - ask a question - how old is she? have you seen our car seat ID card

15:58:12 [kaygreen] hand out a COUPON to everyone walking past

15:58:25 [Ingrid] the expo that's going on right now helps with advertising

15:58:26 [kaygreen] have the drawing box where you gather more leads

15:58:37 [kaygreen] yes online xpos are great too

15:59:03 [fraow] safety info about car seats helps too

15:59:11 [kaygreen] be sure to give them a REASON to order now instead of waiting like free shipping or enter in drawing for orders or a free gift

15:59:12 [Ingrid] this is my first time hearing about the online expo, where can I find more?

15:59:35 [Dianne] http://www.smallbusinessreferralnetwork.com/expo 

15:59:56 [fraow] great place to look, learn and take part

16:00:09 [Ingrid] yeah, I've been visiting that one

16:00:19 [Ingrid] actually today I enter my name for the contest

16:00:39 [kaygreen] awesome - most vendors have contest at their table too

16:00:51 [Ingrid] looks like it's getting great traffic

16:01:05 [Dianne] it is

16:01:07 [kaygreen] one thing I see at many events is people sitting at their booth waiting for someone to come up to them to ask questions

16:01:09 [Ingrid] if Nancy does it again in October, I think I'm in too

16:01:15 [kaygreen] WRONG WRONG WRONG

16:01:33 [Ingrid] Kay>what happened?

16:01:49 [kaygreen] stand up and talk to each person before they speak to you

16:01:59 [Ingrid] got it, never mind!

16:02:01 [kaygreen] sitting down is wrong

16:02:15 [Ingrid] that's right, strike up the conversation first

16:03:07 [RoriD] when I have done booths, I do not place a chair in it so that I am not tempted to sit down...I want to make myself standup so that I am always working to draw folks to my booth

16:04:00 [RoriD] chairs are like magnets...drawing us to sit on them :-)

16:04:20 [Dianne] I agree Rori!

16:04:27 [kaygreen] awesome rori

16:04:54 [kaygreen] also remember booths are not so much about sales - to me the sales there are icing on the cake - the booth is to get my leads to work in the next 2 weeks

16:05:11 [kaygreen] gets your name out there - ask for datings - recruit

16:05:22 [kaygreen] where home demos are about sales

16:05:47 [kaygreen] if you will ach purpose to make 10 contacts each week day for the next 10 days you will be amazed what happens

16:05:59 [kaygreen] ask each contact to buy, date, or join your team

16:06:31 [kaygreen] for those of you who were here at the beginning of class. Do you think the rating number you gave then is the same as you would give now??????

16:06:50 [kaygreen] what would you rate yourself as an employee in your company 1-10

16:07:04 [Dianne] my biggest problem right now is getting my materials printed - designing and printing them myself is very slow going

16:07:56 [Ingrid] I would have to rate myself as 8

16:08:06 [RoriD] because I am always a willing student, ready to learn more so that I can apply it, I'd increase my rating to an 8 ;-)

16:08:42 [Ingrid] even though I still feel like saying 10 because I dedicate so much time to my business

16:08:43 [Dee] lol, I would say only an 8 - I'm doing better than I realized in some areas, but have got to "get myself moving" in some other areas

16:09:52 [cyndie] Goals are so important and this is my problem right now. I used to try & contact 3 each day and x amount of dollars a day. My accounting system had it written in it. but it died and they did not service it. So with all the changes I have not got on track. My Q is how do you make NEW contacts

16:09:59 [kaygreen] you are all doing wonderful - I hope this class has given you some food for thought

16:10:24 [kaygreen] ok lets brainstorm getting new contacts

16:10:39 [kaygreen] well the booths and fairs is a rich field of future contacts

16:10:39 [Dianne] what is your market Cyndie?

16:10:54 [kaygreen] if you have baby products Babies R US offers free Saturday fairs

16:11:22 [cyndie] I sell cosmetics, skin care, spa products and nutritional supplements

16:11:23 [kaygreen] having a coupon in your wallet to give to everyone you meet - in line at the store - to checks at the bank and store - in your outgoing bills

16:12:09 [kaygreen] calling schools and organizations offering fundraisers

16:12:18 [RoriD] Kay, I had someone ask me if I had thought about setting up a kiosk in the mall...is that feasible?

16:12:20 [cyndie] I used to use coupons need to make some again.

16:14:02 [Dianne] how about open houses together with reps from other non-competing markets?

16:17:49 [kaygreen] rori sounds like a good idea if you can afford the costs

16:17:59 [kaygreen] Dianne great idea

16:18:40 [kaygreen] swapping hostess a party with another company rep - I hold a pampered chef party and she holds a My Precious Kid party

16:19:48 [Dee] lol, I was just reading about that!!!

16:19:53 [Dianne] I like the plan of giving a coupon to everyone - think I'll print a coupon on the back of my biz cards to hand out

16:20:09 [kaygreen] everyone like coupons

16:20:25 [kaygreen] well ladies I think that is it for today - any last questions

16:21:16 [Teri] Sorry I missed everything. Looks interesting...

16:21:30 [RoriD] Thanks so much, Kay!! This was VERY helpful!!

17:11:04 [kaygreen] free advertising here http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WNC-Chat-Advertising/ 

17:11:13 [kaygreen] and http://www.123homebusinessguide.com 

17:11:55 [kaygreen] and on Monday at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/1ChristianWAHM/ 

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