13:17:45 [Angie] Hi Kay

13:20:27 [ModKay] HI

13:22:13 [ModKay] what are you up to today

13:22:23 [ModKay] it will be small since it is a new time

13:23:41 [Angie] no prob, I am here just paying bills..lol

13:24:15 [ModKay] any questions on recruiting to start

13:25:49 [Angie] I would love to be able to keep my contacts and team members organized

13:26:06 [Angie] that is my biggest problem, all the info is on paper

13:26:37 [Angie] I'm on AOL so Outlook doesn't seem to work for me

13:26:38 [ModKay] well I know a couple systems

13:26:46 [ModKay] one is ACT software

13:27:15 [ModKay] UGH personally I would switch to a pap email and not use AOL for business

13:27:25 [ModKay] pop email

13:27:37 [ModKay] or a 4x6 file box

13:27:44 [ModKay] make a card for everyone

13:28:33 [Angie] the file box and cards are a great idea

13:28:36 [Angie] thanks

13:28:49 [ModKay] i did it for years in discovery toys

13:28:57 [ModKay] guest fill out a card at every party

13:29:05 [Angie] as for pop email is that my name and then my domain

13:29:06 [ModKay] wrote on the back when I contacted them

13:29:14 [ModKay] and what they bought

13:29:30 [ModKay] yes do you have an email for your domain

13:29:54 [ModKay] you can use that for business and use outlook

13:29:55 [Angie] I think I can get it from where I purchased my domain name

13:30:25 [Angie] I should check...and then I can use Outlook? What about everyone who knows me at my AOL address?

13:31:45 [Angie] The contacts/team members I have now are for my party shop business (no home parties) but I am going to start my new biz and will have home parties

13:32:03 [Angie] I want to be organized before I start the home parties in Sept

13:32:47 [DebbiePPS] here too

13:33:01 [ModKay] if you have a domain email you can use outlook. Send business people an email telling them you are using your new address for business. Slowly you will wean the aol account to family and friends only

13:33:06 [Angie] hi debbie, welcome

13:33:06 [ModKay] hi debb

13:33:17 [DebbiePPS] Good Afternoon!

13:33:28 [ModKay] in fact I do not use my ISP email at all now, only use my domain email

13:33:40 [ModKay] we are talking about keeping track of contacts

13:34:15 [DebbiePPS] oh ok.... one of my many challenges

13:34:20 [ModKay] here is an article about using outlook and your email signature http://www.mypreciouskid.com/article23.html 

13:35:02 [DebbiePPS] I use outlook for email and have mail for each domain go to the ones they are intended for...

13:35:04 [Angie] I will definitely check on all this, it will probably be so much better for me

13:35:05 [DebbiePPS] helps a lot

13:36:10 [ModKay] http://www.mypreciouskid.com/selling.html  here is my info on the 4x6 box system

13:36:36 [twernett] Hi, all!

13:37:00 [Angie] great thanks Kay

13:37:03 [DebbiePPS] Hello

13:37:16 [Angie] Hello

13:38:06 [ModKay] http://www.mypreciouskid.com/records.html  this would help you too

13:38:18 [ModKay] hello everyone

13:39:51 [twernett] Kay, I love those ideas! You should see the file box I set up instead! Ugh!

13:40:36 [ModKay]

13:43:12 [ModKay] i am glad it helps

13:43:20 [twernett] What kind of schedules do you all have to help you remain organized, and not end up too busy?

13:44:22 [DebbiePPS] well my kids just started back to school so I am trying to get back on the school schedule

13:44:34 [Angie] schedule? what's that? lol...great question....

13:45:09 [DebbiePPS] But I have three business jobs... if I can say it that way so I give each one so much time per day or week...

13:45:37 [DebbiePPS] PPS gets 2 hours in the early morning... then two hours in the early afternoon...

13:45:48 [Angie] what is PPS?

13:45:51 [DebbiePPS] and again 2 hours at night...wow that is 6 a day...

13:45:54 [ModKay] just a sec PHONE

13:46:00 [DebbiePPS] Party Pet Shop it is brand new...

13:46:11 [DebbiePPS] I only give SammiSoaps 2-3 a week

13:46:18 [Angie] ah ha this is the Basset Lady?

13:46:27 [DebbiePPS] and my design clients get about 2 hours a day of my time...

13:46:31 [DebbiePPS] yes...LOL

13:46:47 [DebbiePPS] But I try to do like phone calls early afternoon when my little one is asleep

13:47:11 [DebbiePPS] post office and errands are early morning.

13:47:37 [DebbiePPS] nighttime is web work and taking care of orders.... and such

13:48:21 [twernett] Good land, woman, when do you sleep?!

13:48:37 [DebbiePPS] if I hold a party then those two hours at night start after the party

13:48:46 [DebbiePPS] ... not much

13:49:08 [DebbiePPS] I always say if we sell by more time we would be RICH

13:49:31 [DebbiePPS] oops... I meant... sell more time

13:50:23 [DebbiePPS] But I have a 5 year goal for Party Pet Shop and it is just getting started.. so I hope that my schedule can keep up with my plan

13:50:56 [twernett] No doubt! I am having trouble with my schedule (day job, Jafra, volunteer work, single mom) and I'm scared for school starting soon.

13:51:14 [twernett] Debbie, you'll be exhausted by then!

13:51:14 [DebbiePPS] LOL

13:51:30 [DebbiePPS] my kids that are going to school started last week

13:52:29 [twernett] What do you do about scheduling, Angie?

13:53:15 [Angie] I don't have a set schedule actually and I don't have any kids at home

13:53:54 [Angie] This all will change starting in Sept when I start doing my gourmet food home gatherings

13:54:04 [Angie] I need some type of schedule once that begins

13:54:25 [twernett] That sounds fun! I love food...

13:54:45 [Angie] me too...wonder if that will be a problem..LOL..

13:54:48 [DebbiePPS] I like to schedule hour blocks for things.. then the household chores I do as I go....

13:55:03 [DebbiePPS] uhmmmm yummy sounding...

13:55:33 [twernett] I wonder if 15 minute blocks would work for me...good idea!

13:55:47 [Angie] I do have to say I was leaving the household chores and it got to be so bad I HAD to do something so I take little breaks and do the chores during the day

13:56:12 [DebbiePPS] I think any amount of time will work just as long as you train yourself to only do that task at that time...

13:56:14 [twernett] I make my kids work on the house--LOL

13:56:23 [DebbiePPS] that really helps me

13:56:27 [beansnmore] Hello everyone

13:56:35 [twernett] Ah, there's the rub...

13:56:41 [beansnmore] I just saw your email Kay, sorry I am late.

13:56:43 [twernett] Hi!

13:56:46 [Angie] Hello..welcome to chat

13:56:56 [DebbiePPS] my house was so bad just 3 month ago that I would not let my brother come in once when he came over... that is bad

13:57:02 [twernett] Kay had a phone call

13:57:04 [beansnmore] Hi Angie

13:57:07 [beansnmore] Oh, ok.

13:57:12 [DebbiePPS] Then I started to put a little Flylady into my life...

13:57:29 [Angie] No kidding Debbie...my stepdaughter is here with her hubby from Alaska and I tried to keep them out, I was so dang embarrassed

13:57:40 [DebbiePPS] now I never go from one room the next without taking something... and putting something up

13:57:47 [DebbiePPS] LOL

13:57:50 [beansnmore] Flylady was working well for me until I moved. I just put myself back on individual emails so I can start it again.

13:57:51 [DebbiePPS] I know how you feel

13:58:04 [twernett] Flylady?

13:58:10 [DebbiePPS] after that he would call my mom and tell her to ask me if he came over if I would let him in

13:58:26 [Angie] hee hee Debbie

13:58:43 [twernett] Poor Debbie!

13:58:55 [DebbiePPS] I cannot do the whole FlyLady thing... but I do use some of her routines... it helped

13:59:17 [DebbiePPS] Like.. shoes... forget that if I am inside I can not have my shoes on.

13:59:22 [twernett] My sister visited the other day, and I was too embarrassed to ask her to stay!

13:59:38 [DebbiePPS] Flylady... http://www.flylady.net 

13:59:52 [Angie] Oh gosh we need to fix this problem ladies

13:59:54 [twernett] Thanks, Debbie, I'll check it out.

14:00:11 [DebbiePPS] my house really got bad.. my DH said something about it and he has never ever in 10 years ever said anything about the house

14:00:36 [DebbiePPS] that is when I decided that I needed to get things changed..

14:00:37 [twernett] My kids told their friends that we are remodeling!

14:00:53 [DebbiePPS] LOL!!!!

14:01:03 [Angie] LOL good one

14:01:32 [Angie] Welcome Annelise

14:01:35 [DebbiePPS] I also decided that the kids that made the mess could clean it up

14:01:47 [DebbiePPS] so everyone in the house has chores daily no matter what

14:02:11 [annelise] my house is a mess too

14:02:12 [ModKay] hello sorry had a phone call

14:02:27 [DebbiePPS] I can tell you a little something that helps

14:02:27 [Angie] no prob Kay

14:02:37 [DebbiePPS] for anyone that has a big of a mess as I did

14:02:40 [Angie] just chatting about schedules

14:03:15 [DebbiePPS] call a waste disposal company ... my DH just happens to work for one and get a small container.. do a major throw out over a weekend and have then come get it in Monday....

14:03:25 [twernett] Yikes! Boss, here, be back

14:03:25 [beansnmore] What businesses are represented by everyone here?

14:04:07 [ModKay] Hello everyone. My doctor appointment for Haley - I just cancelled it as she is running a fever now - it was an allergist appointment that took 9 weeks to get LOL

14:04:09 [DebbiePPS] I have PPS Party Pet Shop

14:04:14 [Angie] My businesses are 1800PARTYSHop, Megan's Pantry and BJ's Desings (diaper and towel cakes)

14:04:24 [DebbiePPS] oh no Kay

14:04:27 [Angie] oops Designs

14:04:29 [DebbiePPS] sorry to here that

14:04:35 [ModKay] I own www.MyPreciousKid.com  www.123HomeBusinessGuide.com  and www.PreciousKids.org 

14:04:55 [ModKay] I have to agree. My kids all have daily chores and weekly major chore

14:05:33 [Angie] sorry to hear about Haley

14:05:34 [annelise] I'm currently doing web design and hosting, but I've been working towards probably starting aromatherapy/skin care bus.

14:06:01 [ModKay]

14:06:14 [ModKay] has everyone done their intro and web page

14:06:29 [ModKay] ok let’s talk about recruiting/networking

14:06:47 [Angie] Kay do you mean a web page that leads people to all their businesses?

14:06:53 [ModKay] it is always easier to sell/recruit a current customer/contact than to find a new one

14:07:10 [ModKay] no I meant intro yourself and give your URL for your web page too

14:07:28 [Angie] duh, I new that...don't mind me

14:07:41 [beansnmore] sorry to hear she has a fever

14:07:52 [twernett] Hi, back. I am with Jafra, which has skincare, etc--the best!

14:08:12 [DebbiePPS] Debbie Allen http://www.partypetshop.com  and http://www.sammisoaps.com

14:08:14 [beansnmore] I am Michelle, owner of Beans ~n~ More http://www.beansnmore.com

14:08:45 [twernett] My name is Terri, http://www.myjafra.com/twernett 

14:08:58 [Angie] Angie Newton http://www.AmericasPartyConnection.com , http://www.MegansPantry.com  and http://www.bjsdesigns.com 

14:09:33 [twernett] Sorry about Haley - -she in a good mood anyway?

14:09:54 [ModKay] nope

14:10:01 [ModKay]

14:10:20 [ModKay] ok what are you currently doing to ask current customers to date or recruit

14:10:20 [annelise] http://www.webstartcenter.com/  for the web stuff- the other stuff isn't posted anywhere yet.

14:10:35 [ModKay] how do you share you business with them?

14:10:56 [twernett] oooh, sorry.

14:11:13 [beansnmore] Well, I just moved from NC to TX. I am sending a newsletter to all my customers with business opp. info in it.

14:11:41 [Angie] I just started the gourmet food biz so I will be sending out an email/letter to everyone to let them know

14:11:45 [ModKay] good that is a passive way

14:12:00 [ModKay] passive ways are mailing, emailing, inserting it in orders

14:12:07 [Angie] as far as current contacts for my party shop biz, I follow up every month with them

14:12:16 [twernett] I usually can get more dates during the current party. Averages 3 scheduled

14:12:21 [ModKay] active is asking them as you fill out their order forms, calling them

14:12:47 [ModKay] true twer there is a group thing that happens. You will usually get more datings/recruits at a party then after

14:12:57 [twernett] I also call my regular customers every 6 weeks or so

14:13:34 [beansnmore] I am going to print out some fliers tonight to post on bulletin boards all over town.

14:13:38 [twernett] but I am terrible on the phone

14:14:00 [ModKay] awesome!!!\par14:14:10 [DebbiePPS] We have not started yet soooo I am just sending all my old customers from TheHounds a email telling them about PPS and the opportunity

14:14:18 [ModKay] do you have a script for the phone

14:14:30 [beansnmore] I need to contact the local papers too.

14:14:39 [DebbiePPS] I do have a few animal related booths for the fall that I will be hading out info etc.. showing products selling products...

14:15:00 [twernett] Yes, but I forget to look at it! I'm TERRIBLE on the phone. Makes me nervous

14:15:27 [DebbiePPS] I think the phone gets easier the more you do it...

14:15:32 [ModKay] set up a practice session with a friend. Use you script as a guide but do not read from it

14:15:38 [twernett] I bought a book strictly about phone sales to see if I can break my bad habits and relax.

14:15:51 [twernett] Hey, great idea, thanks!

14:15:56 [ModKay] let them know you are just making a customer service call to all your past customers to keep them up to date

14:16:16 [twernett] They say I don't call enough anyway...

14:16:19 [annelise] I was considering selling at selected events and having info there about parties, and being a rep, but it would take more inventory... anything I say now is still speculative, not what I've done yet.

14:16:33 [ModKay] then say " Have you ever considered running a home business along side your family activities? We have a wonderful wholesale buying program if you are interested

14:17:56 [Angie] Terri I would be happy to let you practice on me via phone

14:18:07 [DebbiePPS] Where a T-Shirt with your business on it....

14:18:13 [ModKay] then if they say no then say we also have a hostess program to give her free products. Would you like to share the products with your friends in a class

14:18:15 [DebbiePPS] people will ask you about it....

14:18:30 [Angie] I don't know anything about Jafra so that would be good practice

14:18:42 [twernett] Thanks, Angie, that would be great!

14:18:49 [ModKay] and if they say no ask if they would like to hear about your current specials

14:18:49 [Angie] email me sometime at AngiesPartyShop@aol.com 

14:19:18 [twernett] Angie, got it, thanks!

14:19:20 [DebbiePPS] Do you think Free Samples are a good way to get a new customer?

14:19:22 [ModKay] so in a 2-minute phone call you have offered all three options

14:19:26 [DebbiePPS] I am debating that one

14:19:30 [annelise] I've been talking to a consultant who wants my business - every time I talk to him he asks "so would be okay if I call in about 3 weeks and check in" or whatever time period. Very effective

14:19:43 [ModKay] debb it gets hits but not necessarily buyers

14:19:51 [annelise] Means I can't be mad when he calls back, because I already said yes.

14:19:57 [ModKay] true annelise perfect

14:20:27 [beansnmore] I have offered freebies a few times. Some of the people have later bought but not the majority.

14:20:42 [DebbiePPS] thanks for the info

14:20:42 [ModKay] i also used a 4x6 card file for all my customers and called back monthly

14:20:46 [twernett] Free stuff only works if they are interested in the first place.

14:21:12 [ModKay] and wrote on the back of the cards what they said and bought and when to call back

14:21:31 [DebbiePPS] taking notes...

14:21:42 [twernett] me, too

14:21:45 [ModKay] deb what about offering a discount priced ample pack to get them to try

14:21:52 [DebbiePPS] Kay what do you do about the many that write and ask for free catalogs and such

14:22:07 [DebbiePPS] my catalogs are a whooping $2.00 each plus postage

14:22:20 [annelise] Debbie - I'd tell them to check the website

14:22:21 [DebbiePPS] that I can do.. a sample pack for a small free

14:22:25 [ModKay] i send some but usually send them to the free download of the catalog

14:22:40 [twernett] Hi, Ava!

14:22:53 [DebbiePPS] I am going to have to get my catalog in a PDF file so I can do that...

14:23:23 [Avahosting] Hi!

14:23:23 [beansnmore] Kay, do you know where to purchase those small business card size cds?

14:23:29 [annelise] For "free" offers more effective might be gift certificate where the amount is such that most people who actually redeem it, end up spending a bit over.

14:23:41 [Angie] Hi Ava

14:24:16 [annelise] Or if you buy this, then that is X% off, and this other is free if you get both.

14:24:16 [twernett] Yeah, I did the gift certificates for drawing at the last show. Worked very well, and the leads are much better.

14:24:22 [Avahosting] I wasn’t sure if anyone would be here!

14:24:23 [ModKay] I have a rep who makes up my catalog and other pdf files on a mini CD

14:24:47 [ModKay] subhash@charter.net  Candace is her name

14:25:01 [ModKay] her and her husband can make them up for you with your label

14:25:15 [Angie] Ladies I need to run! Hubby got home early and I need to run some errands before dinner out tonight

14:25:18 [annelise] PDF catalog is also cheaper to update than printed ones if there is an error or other change

14:25:19 [Avahosting] How much do they cost approximately?

14:25:24 [beansnmore] cool! I am going to email her now!

14:25:35 [Angie] Terri email me sometime, we'll chat on the phone

14:25:40 [DebbiePPS] now that is a good idea... I have received several mini disks from suppliers

14:25:54 [twernett] No, problem! Thanks so much, Angie!

14:26:04 [Angie] thanks Kay for a great chat

14:26:47 [DebbiePPS] Kay is that Candace and Keith?

14:28:04 [ModKay] yes deb

14:28:40 [ModKay] email her for cost. It will depend on what you want put on them and the lables

14:28:54 [Avahosting] ok

14:29:10 [Avahosting] I have no idea lol

14:29:15 [DebbiePPS] ok I just sent her a email... that is great idea

14:29:39 [twernett] Sorry, folks, gotta go fix a server (day job). Thanks for the info!

14:30:04 [ModKay] so we talked about asking every customer at your parties/classes and asking when you do customer service calls. Where else can we ask others

14:30:27 [ModKay] those are all active recruiting - face to face

14:30:46 [beansnmore] You can join the local Chamber of Commerce if they allow home businesses.

14:30:55 [Avahosting] asking what? (came in late)

14:31:19 [annelise] depends somewhat on your product - where people who are likely to be in your target market are

14:31:20 [ModKay] we can also do passive - putting out recruit flyers at : bulletin boards, in  , http://wwwpacks.com  www.mommymailers.com  , with orders, in brochure racks in stores, at doctors offices

14:31:38 [annelise] I don't want to be too pushy about it, just let people know.

14:31:45 [ModKay] recruiting - asking if they have ever considered running a home business along side their family activities

14:32:08 [ModKay] remember that not asking is making the decision for them. Always give them the option

14:32:20 [ModKay] CC is good

14:32:26 [ModKay] also other wahm groups

14:32:34 [ModKay] and www.yahoogroups.com 

14:32:39 [Avahosting] I don’t like being pushy either

14:32:52 [annelise] Do you normally bring up the recruiting first? I would tend to start with product in face to face especially

14:32:56 [ModKay] there are bulletin boards and brochure racks all over town

14:32:57 [beansnmore] I need to get back into the mom pack thing.

14:33:03 [annelise] unless they were responding to a business ad

14:33:08 [beansnmore] Don’t forget to put a catchy sig line in your emails!

14:33:14 [ModKay] asking is not being pushing - not listening and not accepting their answer is being pushy

14:33:30 [ModKay] Fred Meyers all have bulletin boards and brochure racks

14:33:36 [annelise] Someone told me she put an ad in Pennysaver - got about 60 responses of which maybe about 5 or 6 seemed like they were going to join

14:33:38 [ModKay] most small smalls have them too

14:34:36 [ModKay] sig lines work great - read this article on that http://www.mypreciouskid.com/article23.html 

14:34:45 [ModKay] oops that should have said small malls

14:35:03 [ModKay] wow that sounds like a great conversion - anyone else tried penny ads

14:35:20 [ModKay] nope i am on email list and http://wwwpacks

14:35:29 [Avahosting] not yet

14:35:58 [DebbiePPS] I need to go figure out the mom packs thing....

14:36:09 [ModKay] set a budget for flyers to put out each month. I can do 1000 trifold flyers one sided on color paper for about $60 or 4000 quarter sheets for the same

14:36:10 [DebbiePPS] seems like all want you to join a email list and I get lost

14:36:17 [beansnmore] I haven’t yet. I need to pick one up so I can have their contact info.

14:36:30 [ModKay] and then I mail them in the flat rate priority mail envelope for $3.85

14:37:08 [ModKay] i put out about 100o a month

14:37:27 [ModKay] i have seen my site traffic increase with the pack swaps

14:37:35 [ModKay] are you giving out packs????

14:37:38 [DebbiePPS] wow that is good.. I need to get to work on the flyer thing

14:38:11 [ModKay] I make mine up as COUPON packs. I swap flyers (with coupons) from other wahms. I then put them all in a 5.5 x 8.5 envelope.

14:38:48 [ModKay] I have them available on my site for $2 postage. I get LOTS of requests for them at $2. I got added to a free stuff for baby book and get orders for them in the mail

14:39:15 [annelise] the coupon swap pack thing definitely sounds like a good thing

14:39:40 [DebbiePPS] I like the coupon swap... I want to get in on some

14:39:41 [ModKay] I take them and leave them at the pediatricians waiting room, preschools, day care centers, new mom groups, mop's, breast feeding groups, to moms at the mall, etc. I have a sticker on the outside that says FREE coupons for parents compliments of www.MyPreciouskid.com 

14:39:53 [DebbiePPS] of course I better start printing them...

14:39:56 [ModKay] People are thrilled to get them

14:40:20 [ModKay] and it lets me get my info into their hands. Do not make them too full, so your stuff does not get lost in the shuffle

14:40:44 [ModKay] i find I can get Lazar Quick to print them for 2.5 cents a sheet, cheaper than on my printer

14:41:08 [beansnmore] Kay, what do you put yours in? (Envelope, baggie, etc??)

14:41:09 [ModKay] it works very well for me. Yo can put in an order from for a few items or and recruit postcard or both

14:41:27 [ModKay] and I make color magnets with my contact info on magnet sheets

14:41:48 [DebbiePPS] Well thanks for chat Kay I have to run and get back on track.. have to run to town...

14:41:49 [ModKay] 5.5 x 8.5 white envelope from office store. I buy them 500 at a time

14:42:03 [DebbiePPS] Bye everyone

14:42:08 [ModKay] you can also use the clear resealable poly bags at http://www. associatedbag.com

14:42:14 [ModKay] bye debb

14:42:24 [annelise] about how many coupons is good for a pack 10? 20?

14:42:40 [ModKay] 10-20 is good

14:42:58 [ModKay] i also have a coupon sheet I made so when I am low of fillers

14:43:03 [annelise] felt about right

14:43:45 [annelise] we've got 2 or 3 people who started their own companies vs being reps here right?

14:44:18 [ModKay] can see it at http://www.mypreciouskid.com/downloads/couponsheet2.pdf I just had 1000 printed on white paper

14:44:39 [ModKay] I own my own company and signed rep #327 today

14:44:40 [annelise] I'm curious if you started out with planning to have reps eventually, not considering the possibility, or advertising for reps from almost the start...

14:45:18 [annelise] yes Kay, I consider you an inspiration there

14:45:20 [ModKay] never planned for reps was just me the first 6 months, then got asked how others could do my business so thought I would take a couple reps

14:45:28 [ModKay]

14:45:38 [ModKay] never imagined I would be here in 2 years

14:45:38 [beansnmore] I started my own company a year ago am just now adding reps. I debated back & forth about adding reps

14:45:40 [annelise] so you let it grow organically

14:45:59 [ModKay] yes

14:46:25 [ModKay] i made a few mistakes (like offering 50% off) and underestimating what it would take in time and cost to train and encourage and manage reps

14:46:32 [annelise] It's one of the things I'm considering, but I would want to at least try selling some myself first to make sure it's possible, not sure what time frame to use.

14:46:33 [ModKay] but overall it has gone very well

14:47:02 [annelise] 50% off is only if they are being straight wholesalers, if you have to support them it's too much.

14:47:17 [ModKay] i agree you have to be able to sell in all the ways you want to teach them to sell. I held parties before I trained them to hold parties. I created sales materials I needed before giving them to the reps

14:47:23 [annelise] even then it depends on your costs whether you could do 50%

14:47:36 [ModKay] i know that now annelise but too late to change

14:47:59 [ModKay] cost factor is the other thing. You MUST have 4 times you cost equals retail or you will lose money

14:48:09 [annelise] That's why I'm considering the rep plan stuff before I start

14:48:16 [ModKay] most underestimate the costs

14:48:37 [annelise] 4x I can do, buy I've seen 5x recommended for party cost

14:48:38 [ModKay] 4 times cost if you are giving 30% commission

14:48:47 [ModKay] 5x is better

14:48:59 [beansnmore] If I set my prices at 4 times over cost, I will be way above my competition on alot of products.

14:49:17 [ModKay] taking others products to add to your line has proved tougher because 50% off plus shipping

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