15:06:30 [katscoffee] hi kay

15:06:42 [katscoffee] looks like we are all alone

15:07:05 [katscoffee] I still need to send you my coupons - last week was crazy for me - so sorry about that!

15:07:45 [KayMPK] no worries

15:07:54 [KayMPK] I take them on going

15:08:51 [katscoffee] I have a contest going and most entrants are requesting info from other companies

15:09:04 [katscoffee] I will let you know when I need more from you too

15:09:06 [KayMPK] cool

15:09:15 [KayMPK] wonderful!!!

15:09:30 [KayMPK] I have a rep program and an affiliate program if you want more income

15:09:55 [KayMPK] so tell me how I can help you with building your team - what do you need

15:10:24 [katscoffee] I would love the income, just don't have the time with my biz right now - xmas has definitely started

15:11:08 [KayMPK] I totally understand - glad it is going so well

15:11:14 [katscoffee] well, let me bounce this one off of you - one of my reps has just started an association with Amazon.com

15:11:42 [katscoffee] they have offered her the chance to put my products on their site too

15:12:10 [katscoffee] my problem is I try to keep as little inventory as possible as I sell 1400 different items

15:12:39 [katscoffee] Amazon wants a turn around time of 48 hours or less and I would only get paid 1-2 times a month

15:12:44 [KayMPK] ok

15:12:49 [KayMPK] w many reps do you have

15:13:06 [KayMPK] could you let her do maybe 12 items

15:13:19 [katscoffee] 110 Last count

15:13:30 [katscoffee] that is what I was thinking - is that what you would do?

15:13:43 [katscoffee] I have sent her a list of our top sellers in each category

15:14:34 [KayMPK] do you make your own products

15:14:35 UnyDreams enters this room

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15:14:56 [KayMPK] I would start with a limited number - or let her handle the inventory

15:15:05 [KayMPK] hi

15:15:09 [katscoffee] no - I just resell

15:15:10 [dharmaboo] hello everyone

15:15:24 [UnyDreams] Hi

15:15:31 [katscoffee] hi

15:15:35 [KayMPK] so you would give her a commission and Amazon would keep a commission

15:15:43 wahmcafe enters this room

15:15:43 [KayMPK] HI HI HI

15:15:49 [dharmaboo] came in to early earlier, lol

15:15:57 [KayMPK] is this Amazon thing available to other business owners like me?

15:16:02 twernett enters this room

15:16:02 [katscoffee] Amazon keeps 20%

15:16:05 [wahmcafe] Hi girls, Biki here

15:16:06 [KayMPK] glad you came back

15:16:12 [twernett] Hi, all!

15:16:19 [dharmaboo] what is the topic?

15:16:29 [katscoffee] we have talked about her doing wholesale - I guess now it just depends on what she decides

15:16:41 [UnyDreams] Hi Biki! (Heather - from Ryze)

15:16:58 [dharmaboo] how is everyone?

15:16:59 [KayMPK] building your team - recruiting

15:17:07 [dharmaboo] cool, thanks

15:17:19 [dharmaboo] I always need that kind of chat, lolol

15:17:22 [KayMPK] everyone do a quick intro: name. URL, how you want to build your business

15:17:39 [UnyDreams] Me too, LOL

15:17:50 btroup enters this room

15:18:07 [btroup] Hi everybody

15:18:12 [dharmaboo] Barbara but call me Boo http://www.shaklee.net/healthy_home  build my team

15:18:18 [UnyDreams] Heather Quarnstrom, Unycorne's Dreams, http://www.unycornesdreams.com , I need to get more distributors and affiliates

15:18:24 [KayMPK] I am Kay Green. I own http://www.MyPreciousKid.com  children's ID products, I currently have 150 reps

15:18:29 [dharmaboo] anyway I can!

15:18:49 [twernett] My name is Terri, http://www.myjafra.com/twernett . I want to start building the team with Jafra

15:18:56 [KayMPK] I also own http://www.123HomeBusinessGuide.com it has lots of FREE stuff for your business

15:19:02 [wahmcafe] Biki,   and http://www.discoverytoyslink.com/bjdrake . I just need to learn how to sell :)

15:19:07 [dharmaboo] hey everyone!

15:19:09 [twernett] Great stuff, too!

15:19:33 [KayMPK] anyone here own their own company and want to build a rep team - or do you rep for another company and want to bring in recruits for your team

15:19:44 [btroup] Bridget,  would like to start building a team with Enchanted Potions

15:19:46 [dharmaboo] I send biz material now ...thanks for that idea Kay and your biz material you sent

15:19:51 [btroup] Yes

15:19:54 [wahmcafe] Sorry, have to go, the baby is up

15:19:57 [twernett] I rep for another [sigh!]

15:20:00 [KayMPK]

15:20:02 [UnyDreams] I own my own and want to bring in reps

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15:20:06 [KayMPK] great boo

15:20:07 [dharmaboo] I am a Shaklee indep distrib and I have people build biz under me

15:21:03 [btroup] I'm trying to build my team with Enchanted Designs-its FREE to join

15:21:10 [UnyDreams] (I'm also a rep for Java N More Basement and would like to bring in more recruits.)

15:21:27 [btroup] not too sure about doing the whole rep thing with my company, but would with the various vendors I use

15:21:39 [KayMPK] really the recruit/team building info works for both - just like to know where to start. I have done both. I was a manager with Tupperware at age 19 in the 70's, and a manager with Discovery Toys in the 80's

15:22:19 [KayMPK] and started my own product - children;s ID cards and fingerprint kits 2 years ago. Have recruited 300 people since

15:22:36 [btroup] I love EP because not only is it free, but they will do private labeling at no charge

15:22:42 [dharmaboo] that is a lot of people Kay! Congrats

15:22:44 [btroup] HOLY COW

15:22:51 [KayMPK] well lets start with basic recruiting. The basic thing is SHARE and CARE - a tip I learned from Ilene Meckley - go see her if you ever get a chance

15:22:52 [btroup] that is great!

15:23:25 [dharmaboo] easy to remember, Share and Care

15:23:26 [twernett] I've been reading her tips--very good.

15:23:32 [KayMPK] You must share the business opportunity with EVERYONE you come into contact with in your business

15:23:45 [dharmaboo] ok

15:23:50 [dharmaboo] listening

15:24:00 [KayMPK] Not sharing the option means you are deciding NO for them - most people want to me asked not told what their decision will be

15:24:14 [dharmaboo] I agree

15:24:26 [KayMPK] do you want to someone to decide you do not want to know about something - or would you rather make your own choice

15:24:36 [dharmaboo] no

15:25:00 [btroup] no

15:25:02 annelise enters this room

15:25:14 [KayMPK] like a waitress at the restaurant is to ask you if you want catsup with your meal - it is her job - you can say yes or no thank you - she is no being pushy just doing her job

15:25:20 [dharmaboo] hi ann

15:25:34 [twernett] I got a few distant leads in the last couple of days, and mailed info. What info would you make SURE that you include, Kay?

15:25:35 [dharmaboo] ok

15:25:38 [KayMPK] CARING is being OK with their decision

15:25:46 [dharmaboo] when I leave a tip, I also leave my biz card

15:25:57 [KayMPK] have they asked for information?

15:26:17 [twernett] Yes.

15:26:36 [KayMPK] I send them with enough info to make a decision on joining you - make sure you tell them why it benefits THEM to join

15:26:46 [KayMPK] talk about them not you

15:27:08 [KayMPK] make sure you offer an incentive to make a quick decision - and include your contact info

15:27:22 [KayMPK] leaving a card is a great passive networking tool

15:27:34 [twernett] I sent them info on the products, info on the plan, of course contact info

15:27:48 [twernett] and I sent a gift cert with an expiration date )

15:28:15 [btroup] oh cool

15:28:17 [btroup] that is a great idea

15:28:17 [KayMPK] follow up is the key after sharing and caring. YOU share and they answer. If they say No thank you, you thank them and ask if there is any other way your company can help them. Sometimes no is just a need for more information

15:28:39 [twernett] I also sent a cover letter telling them various ways to contact me.

15:28:53 [dharmaboo] I agree, I started using Shaklee in 1994...didn't get into the biz till 1998

15:29:03 [KayMPK] sometimes they will hold a class or be a buying customer - LISTEN to what they say and what THEY need - how you can you meet their need

15:29:13 [dharmaboo] sometimes the timing isn't right for them BUT they know you have it

15:29:19 [dharmaboo] when they are ready

15:29:26 [KayMPK] true

15:29:48 [dharmaboo] my upline sent me a biz invite once a year

15:29:53 [dharmaboo] finally came to her

15:29:56 [twernett] good points! I was thinking I'd wait about a week so they can look it over, and then follow up with a call

15:30:01 [KayMPK] so when you get an online order be sure to email them and let them know you have a wholesale buying option for their next option - and tell them how it benefits them

15:30:03 [dharmaboo]

15:30:13 Momsbiz enters this room

15:30:15 [KayMPK] a week is good - no longer tho

15:30:18 [dharmaboo] yea

15:30:26 [dharmaboo] hi mom

15:30:33 [twernett] okay.

15:30:56 [KayMPK] at a party or class do you have a time where you gather up their order and get their payment - tell them there you have a way they could buy wholesale from now on and build income at home

15:31:03 [KayMPK] hi momsbiz

15:31:27 [dharmaboo] I make the time at parties

15:31:33 Director enters this room

15:31:38 [KayMPK] have a couple of set questions you ask? ----- Have you ever considered running a home business along side your family activities?

15:31:44 [KayMPK] hi nancy

15:32:03 [twernett] Yep, during the class, I mention both parties and the opportunity 3 times, in 3 different ways. Then, during ordering, I ask for both!

15:32:05 [KayMPK] Would you be interested in getting your next order at wholesale instead of retail?

15:32:13 [KayMPK] PERFECT

15:32:30 [twernett] Very good one.

15:32:51 [KayMPK] what about doing customer service calls a few weeks after they get their order - making sure the products are all right and offer them recruit and dating options too

15:33:07 [KayMPK] sorry for the typos LOL

15:33:12 [twernett] I usually get, "I'll let you know", so I need a way to create an immediate want for them

15:33:31 [twernett] Yep, I call everyone at least once every two months

15:33:34 [KayMPK] do you have a link on your web site asking if they want info on a home business or wholesale buying

15:33:42 [twernett] That's how I get my 5 calls per day in...

15:34:00 [KayMPK] I'll let you know means not now - no problem - ask when you can check back

15:34:10 [twernett] The website is company owned, and they have VERY limited info re: opportunity

15:34:18 [KayMPK] doing 5 contact calls a weekday is SO SO SO important for your business

15:34:21 [dharmaboo] I do...have more then that on mine

15:34:29 [Momsbiz] Hi everyone

15:34:42 [twernett] I am learning that--MUST get good on the phone!

15:34:45 [KayMPK] I suggest getting your own domain - your own business name - and then have a link to the company store for them to order only

15:35:06 [dharmaboo] hi

15:35:20 [twernett] I was thinking the same thing!

15:35:28 [dharmaboo] have it

15:35:28 [twernett] Hi!

15:35:28 [UnyDreams] (Sorry, I keep getting kicked out....)

15:35:34 [KayMPK] you want to build traffic to your site - not the company site - if you ever leave the company you lose all that traffic and customers you built - with your own site you still have all those customers and traffic

15:35:55 [twernett] What items do you have on your website, boo?

15:35:59 [KayMPK] go to http://www.wahmshoppes.com  $6 a month hosting $9 domain name registration - TONY is excellent

15:36:18 [twernett] Wow, that's cheap!

15:36:21 [KayMPK] domains are so cheap now - my first was $70 now under $10

15:36:29 [KayMPK] welcome back

15:36:33 [UnyDreams] I have hosting services I can offer if it doesn't step on anyone's toes...

15:36:43 [KayMPK] new comers please intro yourself, your url and how you want to build your business

15:36:52 [KayMPK] please do that is fine

15:37:03 [dharmaboo] my website is for only 14.95

15:37:04 safensound enters this room

15:37:11 [annelise] :P

15:37:27 [UnyDreams] I have hosting from $3/month and domain registration for $12.95/year

15:37:32 [dharmaboo] items? I have everything

15:37:34 [KayMPK] if looking for other free things for building your web sites look at http://www.123homebusinessguide.com

15:37:38 [annelise] I've been on the phone, but I do hosting and domain names also

15:37:40 [UnyDreams] 3JCB Designs - http://www.3jcbdesigns.com 

15:37:42 [dharmaboo] ...http://shaklee.net/healthy_home 

15:37:59 [Director] Nancy Founder/Director of the Small Business Referral Network :-)

15:38:00 [KayMPK] and do networking with other yahoo groups like http://www.smallbusinessreferralnetwork.com 

15:38:09 [annelise] http://www.webstartcenter.com/ 

15:38:22 [Momsbiz] Bev Tupperware http://www.my.tupperware.com/momsbiz 

15:39:00 [twernett] and ryze?

15:39:11 Avahosting enters this room

15:39:19 [annelise] Hosting from $6/month and with hosting domain is $8.95, sign up for hosting then click the link for domains you get afterwards

15:39:22 [Avahosting] Hi Everyone!

15:39:35 [twernett] Hi!

15:39:41 [UnyDreams] Hi Ava!

15:39:41 [dharmaboo] I am on ryze

15:39:49 [UnyDreams] Me too!

15:39:56 [annelise] now we've got 3 hosts at least in the chat.

15:40:00 [UnyDreams] :-)

15:40:10 [KayMPK] yes ryze is good

15:40:13 [Avahosting] Me too for all of the above

15:40:25 [KayMPK] ok lets talk about place you can offer your business op or sales ad

15:40:38 [UnyDreams] My big problem is getting people interested. Or if they are interested then getting them to be active.

15:40:46 [twernett] I like choices...

15:40:48 [dharmaboo] ok

15:40:51 [KayMPK] we talked about online orders - classes - yahoogroups

15:40:58 [dharmaboo] parties!

15:41:13 wahmcafe enters this room

15:41:15 [Avahosting] http://www.avahosting.biz  and I'm building http://www.ssafetymom.com  right now :)

15:41:19 [dharmaboo] me 2 twern

15:41:20 [UnyDreams] brb

15:41:24 [KayMPK] yes getting them interested is the first thing - they getting them to actually sign up is next - maybe offering a signup bonus by a certain date

15:41:30 [wahmcafe] Back

15:41:59 [KayMPK] the activity I have not totally figured out. Of my 15o reps maybe 25-30% are active each month

15:42:03 [Avahosting] http://www.ryze.com/go/ava

15:42:03 [KayMPK] WB

15:42:07 [dharmaboo] good idea

15:42:10 [safensound] I am just getting...can anyone the must haves on a site?

15:42:38 [KayMPK] I know it is important that I guide them - give them training - help them set goals - listen to their needs -

15:43:43 [KayMPK] and give them incentives to keep in touch with you after that it is up to them how much effort they put into their business - the one thing I see again and again is those who sign and never do anything with their business - those kind you will probably not be able to help - they have to WANT to

15:43:46 [Avahosting] I have $5.95 domains and hosting

15:43:58 [KayMPK] if they do not want to run their business, nothing you do will help

15:44:09 [KayMPK] some will and some won't

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15:44:20 [Avahosting] ok I think I'm caught up now

15:44:21 [KayMPK] lets get back to web sites in a bit ok?

15:44:40 [KayMPK] if you have a recruit signed they will look to you for help

15:44:56 [KayMPK] can you give them some step by step ways to get started

15:45:06 [KayMPK] help them along the process - keep in touch

15:45:18 [KayMPK] they may need you t o hold their hand for a while

15:45:38 [twernett] I usually send out a tidbit per day via email to recruits--

15:45:44 [KayMPK] are you working your business consistently and successfully

15:45:50 [KayMPK] GREAT idea

15:45:54 [btroup] I try to help them along the way and give them incentives

15:45:58 [twernett] Then, I call once per week to chat

15:46:04 [KayMPK] they will look to your success as a model

15:46:11 [KayMPK] awesome

15:46:28 [KayMPK] you can only train them in what you are already doing

15:46:46 [twernett] I give gifts for reaching a milestone, and send uplifting cards when they don't

15:47:15 [UnyDreams] What a great idea!

15:47:25 [wahmcafe] What I find intimidating is when managers mention money all the time and tell you about other people's success and how much they earn.

15:47:48 [wahmcafe] You feel incapable.

15:47:57 [twernett] I have a day job (yes, I'm at it--) so keeping my brain unscrambled is hardest.

15:48:02 [Avahosting] I agree, that doesn't really help

15:48:29 [twernett] I agree with that--I focus on what they are doing, and how they feel about that.

15:48:50 [KayMPK] we can over sell an opportunity too - if we convince them this business takes no effort! I want to make sure my new sign ups know it is like opening a store in town - it will take time, adverting, money, and lots of effort to let their town know they are open, have products you need, and why you be

15:49:26 [KayMPK] too many think sign up - tell a few people - put up a web site and voila wealth LOL

15:49:39 [twernett] The folks I talked to this week? I made sure to explain that I do well, but not without work.

15:49:51 [KayMPK] it does not work that way. All new business takes lots of work and TIME to build so prepare your new recruit for that

15:49:58 [KayMPK] perfect

15:50:02 [wahmcafe] But, you have to keep in mind that not ALL moms are good with sales. I personally suck

15:50:15 [KayMPK] so where else can we tell others about our opportunity

15:50:16 [twernett] Me too!

15:50:26 [UnyDreams] lol

15:50:30 [KayMPK] very true wahmcafe - but it can be a learned skill

15:50:40 [KayMPK] and not every company fits every person

15:50:55 [wahmcafe] One thing is true though, you CAN'T sell products you personally don't like or use. Hard to convince people to buy something when you don

15:50:55 [KayMPK] how about a question in your sig line on emails

15:51:03 [twernett] I love the product, so I sell some despite my efforts!

15:51:22 [KayMPK] so true - if you are not passionate about your companies products and suing them faithfully you can not effectively sell to others

15:51:34 [wahmcafe] Oops, when you don't believe in products.

15:52:07 [KayMPK] what about message boards - forums - places like ryze

15:52:14 [KayMPK] oops USING

15:52:28 [Avahosting] me too wahmcafe

15:52:29 [wahmcafe] My signature line hasn't helped much

15:52:33 [dharmaboo] Many that I have used, don't work well

15:52:41 [wahmcafe]

15:52:49 [twernett] I also advertise (cheaply) on websites. http://Workfromthehearth.com  is a great place!

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15:53:06 [dharmaboo] sometimes I go to to many places where it is biz only, no one really looking for anything as they are only promoting theirs

15:53:16 [twernett] I've gotten 5 leads in the last month from there

15:53:37 [KayMPK] great

15:53:50 [KayMPK] yes I get a lot of leads from other wahm directories - I paid for an ad

15:53:50 [twernett] Lots of people are looking for multiple income streams, though

15:54:05 [dharmaboo] I was in several yahoo egroups for biz promoting, left several after many months

15:54:14 [twernett] so you can't discount biz only places

15:54:16 [dharmaboo] e possible leads

15:54:17 [Director] The thing about using message boards and Network is NOT to advertise but to offer useful informative information and establish yourself as an expert and USE you signature line Mine get a lot of traffic for me,.

15:54:21 [KayMPK] very true - be sure to ask a question that makes them want to contact you or tell them how it can BENEFIT them

15:54:38 [Director] Never advertise in a forum directly most won;'t allow it.

15:54:43 [dharmaboo] cause some of those moms could be interested in using my products, not really into the biz end with it

15:54:51 [KayMPK] so true nancy - I was just going to mention that

15:54:54 [twernett] I am guilty of TELLING --oops.

15:55:02 [Director] But you can be helpful make contacts and hand out lots of useful information.

15:55:04 [Avahosting] How do you know if someone comes in from your sig line?

15:55:19 [KayMPK] post interesting information for the whole - answer questions - become a giver not just an advertiser

15:55:37 [KayMPK] ava only if they tell you

15:55:38 [Director] A signature line is your Professional Business Card online.

15:55:52 [twernett] For instance, I should have skin care and makeup tips?

15:55:57 [KayMPK] so true nancy

15:56:07 [dharmaboo] I agree

15:56:17 [Director] It should be short and and attention grabbing statement no more than 5 lines long and just enough info to get them to click on your site link. And should not be an ad.

15:56:21 [KayMPK] keep a file of useful tips, and helps you can share with others

15:56:33 [KayMPK] and post them where you can

15:56:45 [KayMPK] have a page of free things on your site and offer the link to others

15:56:45 [twernett] Got it--postcards to customers

15:56:56 [KayMPK] write articles and share then with others

15:56:59 [Director] in fact if you have more than one site to advertise I recommend have a separate sig for each one and rotating them.

15:57:05 [twernett] too obtuse to use online, voy!

15:57:24 [KayMPK] I usually share those free things with others on forums and groups - it gets them to my site - builds my name recognition

15:57:25 [Director] rather than having; more than one link in a sig.

15:57:30 [wahmcafe] Ryze.com  has increased traffic on my web site but I haven't sold many toys though

15:58:07 [KayMPK] good idea nancy - I need to work on that - I did finally put all my sites under one headship http://www.KayGreen.com 

15:58:08 [dharmaboo] Ryze has helped me find at least 5 interested people, pretty much it

15:58:28 [dharmaboo] great job Kay, I saw it

15:58:34 [wahmcafe] What do you do to increase traffic?

15:59:02 [KayMPK] lets look at types of networking - there are 2 kinds - passive and active - most people prefer to do passive as it does not take as much work

15:59:09 [wahmcafe] One thing, joining the forums and networks and being active there. That helps.

15:59:17 [KayMPK] passive is leaving a business card, posting on a forum, mailing out flyers, etc

15:59:38 [KayMPK] active networking is face to face contact or phone calls asking for the dating or recruit

15:59:50 [KayMPK] we need BOTH active and passive in our business

16:00:02 [dharmaboo] ladies, I need to leave...thanks for the chat and useful info

16:00:11 [KayMPK] many people think they can open a successful business and never call people or talk to face to face

16:00:15 [twernett] I'm gonna have to read the rest later--sorry, gotta go Thanks, all!

16:00:18 [KayMPK] bye boo

16:00:26 [KayMPK] bye too

16:00:26 [Director] Content is key that relates to your site if you write the content with the word people use to search you will help increase you search ratings. I have been online 4 years it has taken two and 1/2 of those years to build my reputation so that now the search engines seem to even recognize my name.

16:00:49 [KayMPK] cool Nancy - that is a big step

16:01:14 [KayMPK] yes having a web page with content relevant to your subject/product is so important

16:01:40 [Director] the consumer is getting more and more savvy with what they want and sites that are over loaded with nothing but banner and stuff will get over looked and dismissed quick people want information.

16:01:49 [KayMPK] that is where writing articles really help. As others post your articles, your name recognition increase and your hits too

16:02:18 [KayMPK] my articles bring me lots of links, traffic and sales

16:02:24 [Director] I have a lot of articles out there now on various site so that helps but I need to start writing more with the New Network in the resource box LOL.

16:02:29 [KayMPK] anyone else writing articles yet

16:02:38 [KayMPK] LOL

16:02:51 [Director] although we have already been spidered by alexa and google.

16:02:56 [KayMPK] it does take time to keep putting out new articles but very worth it in building a team

16:03:04 [KayMPK] cool nancy

16:03:14 [wahmcafe] I have focused on articles on my web site. I think reading always help. And you need to update your site with new things constantly

16:03:22 [Avahosting] Its taking me forever to finish my articles

16:03:34 [KayMPK] it is fun now that I am getting calls from big vendors now who want to do business with me because my alexa numbers are good

16:03:53 [KayMPK] thing short and to the point on articles - people are in a hurry

16:04:00 [annelise] so far the articles are just on my site, but I've been thinking I should write stuff to distribute more.

16:04:17 [wahmcafe] How do you decide what to write about? I am not an expert for anything, the only thing I can say I know a lot about is eBay

16:04:27 [KayMPK] do you all have newsletters and offer sign ups on your web site - a great way for increased contact with your customers

16:04:41 [annelise] Sorry I've been on the phone pretty much all chat, so just trying to keep up reading couldn't add in, off phone now

16:05:19 [KayMPK] depends on your product web site focus - write about what you know - I write mine as training for my reps - how to sell/recruit motivation - now I am having other companies asking to use my articles to train their reps too

16:05:27 [KayMPK] glad you are back anne

16:05:39 [Avahosting] I have a newsletter signup box on my tripod site but hardly get any subscribers

16:05:58 [wahmcafe] I used two or three of your articles

16:06:05 [KayMPK] tripod sites and other free servers are harder to build traffic and subscribers on I think

16:06:21 [KayMPK] offer something free for signing up - a free ebook - a discount coupon - etc

16:06:27 [KayMPK] thanks

16:06:47 [annelise] I had a link buried in text for newsletter and didn't get any subscribers, since I've put in the subscribe box I've gotten some.

16:06:57 [KayMPK] you can see my newest at http://www.123homebusinessguide.com/articles.html 

16:07:02 [wahmcafe] I have just started my biweekly newsletter yesterday. The only thing with it is that it is prebuilt in Nuke so you HAVE to registered as a member in order to receive it.

16:07:11 [KayMPK] yes I think the subscribe box really helps

16:07:36 [KayMPK] and giving them an incentive to sign up now

16:07:46 [annelise] tripod is a problem, sites like tripod and geocities are so annoying to users that a lot of people kind of avoid going.

16:08:15 [KayMPK] I use my articles and others articles in my newsletters too - always offer the business opportunity and a discount coupon

16:08:35 [KayMPK] familycontent.com has lots of great free articles too

16:09:03 [annelise] what sort of topics do they have?

16:09:03 [wahmcafe] How long did it take you to get some traffic and are you satisfied with it's growth? I am more than satisfied, not that I earn a single $ . But, I get around 250 visits a day and the web site started less than a month ago. And I have 36 members

16:09:06 [KayMPK] my http://www.123homebusinessguide.com has free ebooks you can give away too. Nancy has some on sbrn as well

16:09:19 [KayMPK] anymore questions about recruiting

16:09:50 [Avahosting] I know tripod is annoying but I've already had it t here for a while and I'm working on the other sites before I move all of that

16:09:50 [wahmcafe] http://www.freearticles.biz/smallbusiness.htm,  good article

16:10:03 [KayMPK] wahmcafe that sounds GREAT - I get visits (not hits) a day and orders nearly every day - been online 2 yrs

16:10:24 [KayMPK] oops 300 visits

16:10:25 [wahmcafe] articles*

16:11:10 [wahmcafe] that is great

16:11:56 [wahmcafe] I would like to focus more on selling the toys, have been thinking about an online party. I need some money, plan to go to Yugoslavia

16:12:49 [KayMPK] I get better sales from offline parties than online

16:13:21 [KayMPK] another tool that works for me - and gets me recruits is my coupon packs

16:13:36 [wahmcafe] I never managed to book a party

16:14:23 [KayMPK] I swap coupons with other wahsm - only need a few 10-20 coupons per pack - then I give away these packs where ever I go 0 left 6 at the new doctor we saw this week - he was thrilled to have them in his waiting room - plus wrote off the mileage as business for that doctor visit

16:14:25 [wahmcafe] What kind of coupons and where do you find them

16:15:04 [KayMPK] where ever I go I have some in my tote bag 0 its is a passive way of getting my info out there - had recruit info and a FREE shipping coupon for the rep pack

16:15:41 [KayMPK] I ask other wahms to swap with me - say I send you 100 coupons and you send me 100 coupons - we each give them away to parents

16:15:55 [KayMPK] also http://yahoogroups.com  are good places to find people to swap with

16:16:08 [KayMPK]    http://www.packs.com 

16:16:13 Tiffinee enters this room

16:16:17 [wahmcafe] Oh, OK

16:16:17 [KayMPK] http://wwwpacks

16:17:17 [KayMPK] I tell everyone my target audience is PARENTS so I swap with others selling to parents. I put a big sticker on the outside that says Compliments of MyPreciousKid

16:17:52 [Avahosting] Hi Tiffinee

16:18:07 [Tiffinee] Hi Ava =)

16:18:22 [Tiffinee] Thought I would pop into chat I saw the message go through a Email Group in Yahoo

16:18:26 [Tiffinee] Yahoo

16:18:39 [KayMPK] and put several of my different fillers for my many opps

16:20:04 [KayMPK] http://www.123homebusinessguide.com/articles/couponpacks.html  this explains it more

16:20:59 [KayMPK] welcome

16:21:11 [wahmcafe] Do you sell ad space on your web sites?

16:21:42 [KayMPK] yes

16:22:31 [wahmcafe] I am a bit embarrassed to ask them to pay

16:22:47 [KayMPK] I prefer to swap links - this explains my method of free swaps these days

16:22:52 [Tiffinee] wahmcafe why?

16:23:15 [Tiffinee] <~~~owns a web marketing and development firm out of my home

16:23:16 [KayMPK] I find if all have same target market - swapping gets m e more traffic then paid advertising in some cases

16:23:24 [Tiffinee] I don't think I ever said that in yahoo

16:24:07 [KayMPK] LOL

16:24:44 [wahmcafe] I just am because I have said that this web site is not money-driven, but I spend too much time and energy there and get $0

16:24:52 [KayMPK] so we have talked about active networking: face to face - 5 contacts a day - follow up - consistency

16:25:18 [KayMPK] passive networking: coupon packs, sig lines, newsletters, business cards, forums, yahoogroups, mailings

16:26:00 [KayMPK] and working consistently - working your business like a business not a hobby

16:26:13 [KayMPK] and SHARING and CARING your opportunity with others

16:26:34 [Avahosting] I prefer swapping also- more cost effective to me

16:26:48 [KayMPK] wahmcafe - affiliates links might help you get some income

16:27:47 [KayMPK] 123HomeBusinessGuide.com is also not money driven - no ads for sale - no product for sale - but I do have affiliate links that offers free items to my visitors and some income for me - at least it pays for itself and gets me more name recognition

16:29:10 [KayMPK] many wahms also offer affiliate programs on their products too. I offer a 20% commission affiliate program on my kids ID cards. Anyone else have an affiliate program

16:29:54 [Director] Biljana what I try to do is keep my advertising cost down as low as possible but without the fees It would be hard to keep my sites operational. But my goals is always to offer an affordable place for small and home business to promote.

16:29:58 [Avahosting] I'm an affiliate for other companies too

16:30:04 [KayMPK] affiliate are a way to generate income with no inventory - Nancy what night is the affiliate chat here

16:30:33 [KayMPK] I agree nancy - I do PAY for advertising many places too

16:30:59 [Director] Sunday nights

16:31:33 [KayMPK] great ladies - make note of that is you want to add income from affiliates

16:32:04 [Director] All the chat links and times can be found here http://smallbusinessreferralnetwork.com 

16:32:20 [Director] they are all listed on the left hand side.

16:32:40 [KayMPK] there are so many great chats - please check them out

16:33:17 [Director] BTW we are no officially in Launch mode Pre-Launch ended Sunday. The Center NOW has an official title and is not longer called Muggles PHP Site LOL

16:33:21 [wahmcafe] OK, one question, how to I book a chat, who do I talk to?

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16:33:45 [Avahosting] And don't forget the forums

16:33:56 [KayMPK] LOL

16:33:56 [Director] You would talk to me Biljana

16:34:26 [Director] we have to get together you and I anyways and talk about what I expect from site I partner with.

16:34:39 [Avahosting] I just got my ad on http://www.tbadeals.us 

16:34:45 [Director] Do you have any Instant messengers you use?

16:35:24 [Director] anyone know where I have to go to redownload my ICQ?

16:35:50 [Director] I have not done that since I got the HD.

16:36:00 Principle enters this room

16:36:12 [wahmcafe] I have AOL, Yahoo and MSN

16:36:19 [Avahosting] icq.com Nancy

16:36:22 [Director] I might just sent up a new account.

16:36:26 [Avahosting] I have them all too

16:36:42 [Director] Well add my on yahoo please my ID there is njnsn :-)

16:36:49 [Director] Thanks

16:36:49 [KayMPK] icq.com

16:37:05 [Director] I think I might just set up a new account there.

16:37:19 [Avahosting] It says your not on now Nancy

16:37:34 [KayMPK] http://trillian.cc/  lets you have all your IM's in one window

16:37:46 [Director] I was invisible LOL

16:37:54 [Director] didn't see me did ya LOL

16:37:56 [Avahosting] lol

16:37:59 [Director] boo

16:39:53 [Avahosting] I'm Ava_jaclyn on yahoo if anyone doesn't know

16:39:54 [KayMPK] kay1299 here

16:40:17 [KayMPK] on yahoo and AIM

16:40:28 [Avahosting] Is anyone on Msn messenger? I'm having trouble signing in all day

16:40:41 [Avahosting] I'm Happyhomeschool on AIM

16:40:52 [wahmcafe] I am doublewater1978 on Yahoo. doublewater on AOL and dj2biki2@hotmail on MSN

16:42:06 Principle exits from this room

16:42:14 [Director] I just added you to yahoo.

16:42:46 [wahmcafe]

16:42:53 [Director] added you too AOL too.

16:43:04 [Director] now you have to approve me on yahoo.

16:44:18 [KayMPK] well we close the networking chat for today but you are all welcome to keep chatting - I have orders to process. See you next week

17:11:04 [kaygreen] free advertising here http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WNC-Chat-Advertising/ 

17:11:13 [kaygreen] and http://www.123homebusinessguide.com 

17:11:55 [kaygreen] and on Monday at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/1ChristianWAHM/ 

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